[Nhhoa] Outside pool visitors
Ty Hudson
moniqueandty at yahoo.com
Tue Jun 3 05:41:22 CDT 2008
Just a quick note on two cards....there is really no need for two...one per family works just fine....if one member of the family has your card and is at the pool, then they are there to let you in....when you have two cards, you are less apt to keep up with them and then one falls into the wrong hands.....also, replacements are priced with a little sting to keep down the chance of an outside resident purchasing one....the nice protection is that when the resident purchases a second card, their first one is deactivated....At my prior subdivision, we had a card purchased through a resident and then when the resident complained their pool card did not work, they had basically exposed themselves for selling one to an outsider... One card per family has a proven success rate.... I am certainly not trying to talk out of line, just as a former HOA President that has faced these same issues once before, I am trying to express what has worked in the past. We had an olympic size
pool with 75 chairs and 2 apartment complexes within a half mile....their pools were nothing close to ours, so there was a natural tendency for drifting...Pool cards made the difference as well as collected an average of $8000 a year in delinquent HOA accounts (we paid monthly dues there) by tying them to pool access.
Ty Hudson
Amanda Brown <mandy22726 at yahoo.com> wrote: Aside from all the chemical talk that has been going on for the past week, I think the key card would be a great idea. Maybe we should get 2 though? If someone wants a second key then we could purchase it from the board. Just a thought, I like it much better. It will help keep the other people out.
Amanda Brown
--- On Tue, 6/3/08, scott and vicki wrote:
> From: scott and vicki
> Subject: Re: [Nhhoa] Outside pool visitors
> To: "North Hampton Homeowners Association"
> Date: Tuesday, June 3, 2008, 5:15 AM
> yeah, i'm done too. i have been doing pools 5 years and
> have had great
> success with a list of great references. why should i
> stress myself out over
> this if you and the rest of the board aren't going to
> listen. gee, you
> should go get YOUR CPO license since you seem to be so
> informed.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> To: "North Hampton Homeowners Association"
>
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 11:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nhhoa] Outside pool visitors
>
>
> > This will be my last reply this subject. Free
> Chlorine,PPM Minimum=1.0,
> > Ideal= 2.0-4.0, Max.=5.0.
> > Chlorine, defined as a sanitizer, destroys
> microorganisms. It also carries
> > out an additional function as an oxidizer. Studies
> show only 10% of
> > chlorine is needed for sanitation while 90% is used
> for oxidation.
> > Information obtained from National swimming Pool
> Foundation CPO Handbook
> > Water Chemistry Guidelines.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "scott and vicki" [sssvpg at comcast.net]
> > Sent: 06/02/2008 10:37 PM AST
> > To: "North Hampton Homeowners Association"
>
> > Subject: Re: [Nhhoa] Outside pool visitors
> >
> >
> >
> > walker,
> >
> > if the county finds a reading of 1.0, they will tell
> you to raise it if
> > not
> > close the pool. this pool is very busy and it will not
> take anytime for
> > that
> > 1.0-1.5 to drop down to zero. usage and heat from the
> sun eats up chlorine
> > in a heartbeat. it is always a good practice to keep
> it at 4.0-5.0 which
> > is
> > at the top of the scale to allow room to come down. i
> did not get any
> > reading when a homeowner brought me a water sample
> tonight.
> >
> > me and my kids wont be in the pool at a level of
> 1.0-1.5 i can only hope
> > people out there start listening.
> >
> >
> > concerned,
> >
> > Vicki Smith
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From:
> > To: "North Hampton Homeowners Association"
>
> > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 10:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Nhhoa] Outside pool visitors
> >
> >
> >> 7:30 to 8:00PM 1 to 1.5PPM
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "scott and vicki"
> [sssvpg at comcast.net]
> >> Sent: 06/02/2008 10:22 PM AST
> >> To: "North Hampton Homeowners
> Association"
> >> Subject: Re: [Nhhoa] Outside pool visitors
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> not at 6:00 today.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From:
> >> To: "North Hampton Homeowners
> Association"
> >> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 10:16 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Nhhoa] Outside pool visitors
> >>
> >>
> >>> The free chlorine levels have been checked
> three times today, morning
> >>> noon
> >>> and evening. Two different kits were used and
> the checks were performed
> >>> by
> >>> three different people. Chlorine levels were
> acceptable each time.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "scott and vicki"
> [sssvpg at comcast.net]
> >>> Sent: 06/02/2008 09:11 PM AST
> >>> To: ; "North
> Hampton Homeowners Association"
> >>>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Nhhoa] Outside pool visitors
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hi my name is Rachel Smith. I live at 13
> Vineyard Way and I help my
> >>> parents with a pool business. Today me and my
> brothers went to the pool
> >>> and
> >>> tested the water. (We do this always before
> entering water just as a
> >>> precaution.) Today after testing the water,
> we found there was no
> >>> chlorine
> >>> reading. This really concerns me because I
> was told that the pool man
> >>> had
> >>> been there at least twice this morning and
> checked the chemicals. Also,
> >>> I
> >>> told my parents about the situation. They
> placed a call to the boarded
> >>> and
> >>> as of yet have gotten no response.
> >>> I recently read that if chemicals are not
> balanced many illnesses or
> >>> diseases can be contracted. Therefore,
> personally, I think before we
> >>> worry
> >>> about non-residents swimming in our pool, we
> need to focus on making
> >>> sure
> >>> the water is safe period.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From:
> >>> To: ; "North
> Hampton Homeowners Association"
> >>>
> >>> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 7:30 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [Nhhoa] Outside pool visitors
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> One idea that the board is discussing is to
> replace the current code
> >>> lock
> >>> with a lock system that would require a card
> for entru and to strengthen
> >>> the
> >>> gate closer to ensure that it closes every
> time. The only way in would
> >>> be
> >>> to have a card.
> >>>
> >>> One card would be issued to each house and it
> would be up to the
> >>> resident
> >>> to
> >>> coordinate the card usage.
> >>>
> >>> This will not work though if people let
> unknown people into the pool
> >>> area.
> >>>
> >>> It is not overly expensive, but was not
> budgeted for this year.
> >>>
> >>> Could everyone please give feedback regarding
> this idea?
> >>>
> >>> Will it work? Will you not let unauthorized
> people in? What do you
> >>> think
> >>> about limiting the number of guests allowed?
> >>>
> >>> Would you be willing for the board to approve
> using some reserve funds
> >>> (approx $1000) to secure the pool or would you
> rather wait until another
> >>> year to fund the project?
> >>>
> >>> All feedback and any other ideas are greatly
> appreciated.
> >>>
> >>> Roger Hackler
> >>> Treasurer
> >>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Amanda Brown
>
> >>>
> >>> Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 16:15:57
> >>> To:North Hampton Homeowners Association
>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Nhhoa] Outside pool visitors
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I had the same problem Saturday night, we
> ended up leaving after they
> >>> wouldn't leave. The kids came in a van and
> tried to squeal the tires in
> >>> the
> >>> parking lot. I heard them say they are from
> whispering pines, they were
> >>> very
> >>> rude and obnoxious. What should we do?
> >>>
> >>> Amanda Brown
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- On Mon, 6/2/08, Jennifer Martin
>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> From: Jennifer Martin
>
> >>>> Subject: [Nhhoa] Outside pool visitors
> >>>> To: "North Hampton Homeowners
> Association"
> >>>> Date: Monday, June 2, 2008, 2:13 PM
> >>>> Hi Gang,
> >>>> My little family and I went to the pool
> today and had an
> >>>> excellent time. It's great to have
> the opportunity for
> >>>> my kids to play with others in the
> neighborhood.
> >>>>
> >>>> However, at one point I counted 16 people
> in the pool that
> >>>> were not from our neighborhood. I tried
> (which is VERY
> >>>> hard for me) to confront them about having
> to have a
> >>>> homeowner with them while using the
> amenities, but that
> >>>> didn't work. Needless to say, it was
> rather crowded.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm not good at confrontation. Any
> suggestions?
> >>>>
> >>>> In addition, the pool and bathrooms look
> great. Thank you
> >>>> board and other volunteers for the work
> you do for our
> >>>> neighborhood :)
> >>>> Jennifer Martin
> >>>> ESOL Instructor
> >>>> White Elementary
> >>>> Pine Log Elementary
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: Roger Hackler
> >>>> To: 'North Hampton Homeowners
> Association'
> >>>> Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 8:15 PM
> >>>> Subject: [Nhhoa] Peaceful Coexistance
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Here are some helpful suggestions for
> achieving a
> >>>> peaceful coexistence with your neighbor:
> >>>>
> >>>> Before There is a Concern:
> >>>>
> >>>> Meet your neighbor. Introduce yourself
> at the mailbox,
> >>>> when taking a walk, or when you see the
> moving boxes
> >>>> arrive. Learning your neighbors' name
> and regularly
> >>>> offering a cordial "good
> morning" or
> >>>> "hello" can be the start of a
> positive
> >>>> relationship. Don't worry about
> whether or not they
> >>>> reciprocate. The important thing is that
> you are making an
> >>>> effort. Don't wait until you have a
> problem to meet
> >>>> your neighbor.
> >>>>
> >>>> Keep your neighbors informed. Contact
> your neighbors
> >>>> before you do something that might affect
> them-such as
> >>>> hosting a big party, building a fence,
> cutting down a tree,
> >>>> or getting a new dog. Informing your
> neighbors ahead of time
> >>>> allows them to make plans or tell you how
> your project will
> >>>> affect them. Getting their input lets you
> act in a way that
> >>>> avoids problems.
> >>>>
> >>>> Observe the Golden Rule. Treat your
> neighbors the way
> >>>> they would like to be treated. Set an
> example by being
> >>>> considerate about noise from vehicles,
> tools, stereos,
> >>>> group activities and pets.
> >>>>
> >>>> Be aware of differences. Differences in
> age, ethnic
> >>>> background, years in the neighborhood,
> etc. can lead to
> >>>> conflicting expectations or
> misunderstandings unless you
> >>>> make an effort to communicate and
> understand each other.
> >>>>
> >>>> Consider your neighbors' view. How
> does your compost
> >>>> pile, dog run, or son's car parts look
> from your
> >>>> neighbors' backyard or windows? Keep
> areas that are in
> >>>> others' view reasonably presentable.
> >>>>
> >>>> Be appreciative. If your neighbor does
> something you
> >>>> like, tell them! They will be pleased that
> you noticed the
> >>>> yard work or the new paint job. It will be
> easier to talk
> >>>> later when they do something that you
> don't like.
> >>>>
> >>>> When There is a Problem:
> >>>>
> >>>> Don't assume that discussing it will
> aggravate your
> >>>> neighbor. Your neighbors can't help
> resolve a problem
> >>>> they don't know exists. Focus on:
> >>>>
> >>>> · Learning rather than
> delivering a message
> >>>>
> >>>> · Understanding rather than
> blaming
> >>>>
> >>>> · Joint problem solving rather
> than who is at
> >>>> fault
> >>>>
> >>>> If you use these approaches, the
> conversation will
> >>>> usually go better than you think.
> Neighbors are often not
> >>>> aware that their actions are negatively
> affecting others.
> >>>> Usually, people are willing to make
> changes if you approach
> >>>> them respectfully.
> >>>>
> >>>> Don't assume you know your
> neighbors' intentions.
> >>>> If your neighbor does something that
> irritates you,
> >>>> don't assume that it was done on
> purpose. Presume the
> >>>> neighbor doesn't know about the
> annoyance. Giving them
> >>>> the benefit of the doubt will make it
> easier for you to
> >>>> talk about the situation.
> >>>>
> >>>> Don't wait to talk about things that
> bother you. If
> >>>> your neighbor does something that bothers
> you, let them
> >>>> know. By communicating early and calmly,
> you take a big
> >>>> step forward toward resolving the problem.
> Don't wait
> >>>> until a minor irritation becomes a major
> issue and makes it
> >>>> difficult to discuss.
> >>>>
> >>>> Separate the person from the problem.
> Conflict can happen
> >>>> whenever two or more people interact with
> one another. It
> >>>> occurs because we are all unique
> individuals with different
> >>>> perspectives, values, and needs. Focusing
> on the issue, not
> >>>> the person will allow you to take care of
> the problem while
> >>>> maintaining or improving your relationship
> with your
> >>>> neighbor.
> >>>>
> >>>> Be respectful. Talk directly with the
> neighbor involved
> >>>> with the problem. Don't gossip or
> spread rumors with
> >>>> other neighbors. Gossip damages
> relationships and can hurt
> >>>> other people. Problem solving is only
> possible when we
> >>>> treat each other with respect.
> >>>>
> >>>> Be calm. If a neighbor approaches you
> accusingly about a
> >>>> difficulty, listen carefully and thank
> them for telling you
> >>>> how they feel. You don't have to agree
> or justify your
> >>>> behavior. If you can listen and not react
> defensively, then
> >>>> their anger will subside, the lines of
> communication will
> >>>> remain open, and there is a good chance of
> working things
> >>>> out.
> >>>>
> >>>> Listen well. When you discuss a problem,
> try to
> >>>> understand how your neighbor feels about
> an issue and why.
> >>>> Understanding is not the same as agreeing,
> but will
> >>>> increase the likelihood of a solution that
> works for you
> >>>> both. Summarize what you hear and ask
> questions to clarify
> >>>> your understanding of their view of the
> problem.
> >>>>
> >>>> If things get heated, take a break. If
> you need to, take
> >>>> a break to calm down and think about what
> you and your
> >>>> neighbor have discussed. Arrange a time to
> finish the
> >>>> conversation later, and then do so.
> It's hard to
> >>>> problem solve when you are having a heated
> discussion.
> >>>>
> >>>> Constructive communication can resolve
> conflict, and
> >>>> talking things over directly is the best
> way to handle
> >>>> problems, and avoid enforcement or the
> courts.
> >>>>
> >>>> From the City of Beaverton Oregon
> Dispute Resolution
> >>>> Center.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>_______________________________________________
> >>>> NHHOA mailing list
> >>>> NHHOA at nhhoa.org
> >>>>
> >>>>
> http://mail.nhhoa.org/mailman/listinfo/nhhoa_nhhoa.org_______________________________________________
> >>>> NHHOA mailing list
> >>>> NHHOA at nhhoa.org
> >>>>
> http://mail.nhhoa.org/mailman/listinfo/nhhoa_nhhoa.org
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> _______________________________________________
> >>> NHHOA mailing list
> >>> NHHOA at nhhoa.org
> >>>
> http://mail.nhhoa.org/mailman/listinfo/nhhoa_nhhoa.org
> >>>
> _______________________________________________
> >>> NHHOA mailing list
> >>> NHHOA at nhhoa.org
> >>>
> http://mail.nhhoa.org/mailman/listinfo/nhhoa_nhhoa.org
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> _______________________________________________
> >>> NHHOA mailing list
> >>> NHHOA at nhhoa.org
> >>>
> http://mail.nhhoa.org/mailman/listinfo/nhhoa_nhhoa.org
> >>>
> >>>
> _______________________________________________
> >>> NHHOA mailing list
> >>> NHHOA at nhhoa.org
> >>>
> http://mail.nhhoa.org/mailman/listinfo/nhhoa_nhhoa.org
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> NHHOA mailing list
> >> NHHOA at nhhoa.org
> >>
> http://mail.nhhoa.org/mailman/listinfo/nhhoa_nhhoa.org
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> NHHOA mailing list
> >> NHHOA at nhhoa.org
> >>
> http://mail.nhhoa.org/mailman/listinfo/nhhoa_nhhoa.org
> >>
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > NHHOA mailing list
> > NHHOA at nhhoa.org
> > http://mail.nhhoa.org/mailman/listinfo/nhhoa_nhhoa.org
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > NHHOA mailing list
> > NHHOA at nhhoa.org
> > http://mail.nhhoa.org/mailman/listinfo/nhhoa_nhhoa.org
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> NHHOA mailing list
> NHHOA at nhhoa.org
> http://mail.nhhoa.org/mailman/listinfo/nhhoa_nhhoa.org
_______________________________________________
NHHOA mailing list
NHHOA at nhhoa.org
http://mail.nhhoa.org/mailman/listinfo/nhhoa_nhhoa.org
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://mail.nhhoa.org/pipermail/nhhoa_nhhoa.org/attachments/20080603/f2295c08/attachment-0002.html>
More information about the NHHOA
mailing list