[Nhhoa] Outside pool visitors

Tue Jun 3 05:11:15 CDT 2008

Aside from all the chemical talk that has been going on for the past week, I think the key card would be a great idea. Maybe we should get 2 though? If someone wants a second key then we could purchase it from the board. Just a thought, I like it much better. It will help keep the other people out.

Amanda Brown

--- On Tue, 6/3/08, scott and vicki <sssvpg at comcast.net> wrote:

> From: scott and vicki <sssvpg at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Nhhoa] Outside pool visitors
> To: "North Hampton Homeowners Association" <nhhoa at nhhoa.org>
> Date: Tuesday, June 3, 2008, 5:15 AM
> yeah, i'm done too.  i have been doing pools 5 years and
> have had great 
> success with a list of great references. why should i
> stress myself out over 
> this if you and the rest of the board aren't going to
> listen.  gee, you 
> should go get YOUR CPO license since you seem to be so
> informed.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <walker.owen at fedex.com>
> To: "North Hampton Homeowners Association"
> <nhhoa at nhhoa.org>
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 11:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nhhoa] Outside pool visitors
> 
> 
> > This will be my last reply  this subject. Free
> Chlorine,PPM Minimum=1.0, 
> > Ideal=  2.0-4.0, Max.=5.0.
> > Chlorine, defined as a sanitizer, destroys
> microorganisms. It also carries 
> > out an additional function as an oxidizer. Studies
> show only 10% of 
> > chlorine is needed for sanitation while 90% is used
> for oxidation.
> > Information obtained from National swimming Pool
> Foundation CPO Handbook 
> > Water Chemistry Guidelines.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "scott and vicki" [sssvpg at comcast.net]
> > Sent: 06/02/2008 10:37 PM AST
> > To: "North Hampton Homeowners Association"
> <nhhoa at nhhoa.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Nhhoa] Outside pool visitors
> >
> >
> >
> > walker,
> >
> > if the county finds a reading of 1.0, they will tell
> you to raise it if 
> > not
> > close the pool. this pool is very busy and it will not
> take anytime for 
> > that
> > 1.0-1.5 to drop down to zero. usage and heat from the
> sun eats up chlorine
> > in a heartbeat. it is always a good practice to keep
> it at 4.0-5.0 which 
> > is
> > at the top of the scale to allow room to come down. i
> did not get any
> > reading when a homeowner brought me a water sample
> tonight.
> >
> > me and my kids wont be in the pool at a level of
> 1.0-1.5 i can only hope
> > people out there start listening.
> >
> >
> > concerned,
> >
> > Vicki Smith
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: <walker.owen at fedex.com>
> > To: "North Hampton Homeowners Association"
> <nhhoa at nhhoa.org>
> > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 10:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Nhhoa] Outside pool visitors
> >
> >
> >> 7:30 to 8:00PM 1 to 1.5PPM
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "scott and vicki"
> [sssvpg at comcast.net]
> >> Sent: 06/02/2008 10:22 PM AST
> >> To: "North Hampton Homeowners
> Association" <nhhoa at nhhoa.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Nhhoa] Outside pool visitors
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> not at 6:00 today.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: <walker.owen at fedex.com>
> >> To: "North Hampton Homeowners
> Association" <nhhoa at nhhoa.org>
> >> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 10:16 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Nhhoa] Outside pool visitors
> >>
> >>
> >>> The free chlorine levels have been checked
> three times today, morning
> >>> noon
> >>> and evening. Two different kits were used and
> the checks were performed
> >>> by
> >>> three different people. Chlorine levels were
> acceptable each time.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "scott and vicki"
> [sssvpg at comcast.net]
> >>> Sent: 06/02/2008 09:11 PM AST
> >>> To: <treasurer at nhhoa.org>; "North
> Hampton Homeowners Association"
> >>> <nhhoa at nhhoa.org>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Nhhoa] Outside pool visitors
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>    Hi my name is Rachel Smith. I live at 13
> Vineyard Way and I help my
> >>> parents with a pool business.  Today me and my
> brothers went to the pool
> >>> and
> >>> tested the water.  (We do this always before
> entering water just as a
> >>> precaution.)  Today after testing the water,
> we found there was no
> >>> chlorine
> >>> reading.  This really concerns me because I
> was told that the pool man
> >>> had
> >>> been there at least twice this morning and
> checked the chemicals. Also, 
> >>> I
> >>> told my parents about the situation.  They
> placed a call to the boarded
> >>> and
> >>> as of yet have gotten no response.
> >>>    I recently read that if chemicals are not
> balanced many illnesses or
> >>> diseases can be contracted.  Therefore,
> personally, I think before we
> >>> worry
> >>> about non-residents swimming in our pool, we
> need to focus on making 
> >>> sure
> >>> the water is safe period.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>> From: <treasurer at nhhoa.org>
> >>> To: <mandy22726 at yahoo.com>; "North
> Hampton Homeowners Association"
> >>> <nhhoa at nhhoa.org>
> >>> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 7:30 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [Nhhoa] Outside pool visitors
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> One idea that the board is discussing is to
> replace the current code 
> >>> lock
> >>> with a lock system that would require a card
> for entru and to strengthen
> >>> the
> >>> gate closer to ensure that it closes every
> time.  The only way in would
> >>> be
> >>> to have a card.
> >>>
> >>> One card would be issued to each house and it
> would be up to the 
> >>> resident
> >>> to
> >>> coordinate the card usage.
> >>>
> >>> This will not work though if people let
> unknown people into the pool
> >>> area.
> >>>
> >>> It is not overly expensive, but was not
> budgeted for this year.
> >>>
> >>> Could everyone please give feedback regarding
> this idea?
> >>>
> >>> Will it work?  Will you not let unauthorized
> people in?  What do you
> >>> think
> >>> about limiting the number of guests allowed?
> >>>
> >>> Would you be willing for the board to approve
> using some reserve funds
> >>> (approx $1000) to secure the pool or would you
> rather wait until another
> >>> year to fund the project?
> >>>
> >>> All feedback and any other ideas are greatly
> appreciated.
> >>>
> >>> Roger Hackler
> >>> Treasurer
> >>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Amanda Brown
> <mandy22726 at yahoo.com>
> >>>
> >>> Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 16:15:57
> >>> To:North Hampton Homeowners Association
> <nhhoa at nhhoa.org>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Nhhoa] Outside pool visitors
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I had the same problem Saturday night, we
> ended up leaving after they
> >>> wouldn't leave. The kids came in a van and
> tried to squeal the tires in
> >>> the
> >>> parking lot. I heard them say they are from
> whispering pines, they were
> >>> very
> >>> rude and obnoxious. What should we do?
> >>>
> >>> Amanda Brown
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- On Mon, 6/2/08, Jennifer Martin
> <jennifermartin at bellsouth.net> 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> From: Jennifer Martin
> <jennifermartin at bellsouth.net>
> >>>> Subject: [Nhhoa] Outside pool visitors
> >>>> To: "North Hampton Homeowners
> Association" <nhhoa at nhhoa.org>
> >>>> Date: Monday, June 2, 2008, 2:13 PM
> >>>> Hi Gang,
> >>>> My little family and I went to the pool
> today and had an
> >>>> excellent time.  It's great to have
> the opportunity for
> >>>> my kids to play with others in the
> neighborhood.
> >>>>
> >>>> However, at one point I counted 16 people
> in the pool that
> >>>> were not from our neighborhood.   I tried
> (which is VERY
> >>>> hard for me) to confront them about having
> to have a
> >>>> homeowner with them while using the
> amenities, but that
> >>>> didn't work.  Needless to say, it was
> rather crowded.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm not good at confrontation.  Any
> suggestions?
> >>>>
> >>>> In addition, the pool and bathrooms look
> great.  Thank you
> >>>> board and other volunteers for the work
> you do for our
> >>>> neighborhood :)
> >>>> Jennifer Martin
> >>>> ESOL Instructor
> >>>> White Elementary
> >>>> Pine Log Elementary
> >>>>   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>>>   From: Roger Hackler
> >>>>   To: 'North Hampton Homeowners
> Association'
> >>>>   Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 8:15 PM
> >>>>   Subject: [Nhhoa] Peaceful Coexistance
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>   Here are some helpful suggestions for
> achieving a
> >>>> peaceful coexistence with your neighbor:
> >>>>
> >>>>   Before There is a Concern:
> >>>>
> >>>>   Meet your neighbor. Introduce yourself
> at the mailbox,
> >>>> when taking a walk, or when you see the
> moving boxes
> >>>> arrive. Learning your neighbors' name
> and regularly
> >>>> offering a cordial "good
> morning" or
> >>>> "hello" can be the start of a
> positive
> >>>> relationship. Don't worry about
> whether or not they
> >>>> reciprocate. The important thing is that
> you are making an
> >>>> effort. Don't wait until you have a
> problem to meet
> >>>> your neighbor.
> >>>>
> >>>>   Keep your neighbors informed. Contact
> your neighbors
> >>>> before you do something that might affect
> them-such as
> >>>> hosting a big party, building a fence,
> cutting down a tree,
> >>>> or getting a new dog. Informing your
> neighbors ahead of time
> >>>> allows them to make plans or tell you how
> your project will
> >>>> affect them. Getting their input lets you
> act in a way that
> >>>> avoids problems.
> >>>>
> >>>>   Observe the Golden Rule. Treat your
> neighbors the way
> >>>> they would like to be treated. Set an
> example by being
> >>>> considerate about noise from vehicles,
> tools, stereos,
> >>>> group activities and pets.
> >>>>
> >>>>   Be aware of differences. Differences in
> age, ethnic
> >>>> background, years in the neighborhood,
> etc. can lead to
> >>>> conflicting expectations or
> misunderstandings unless you
> >>>> make an effort to communicate and
> understand each other.
> >>>>
> >>>>   Consider your neighbors' view. How
> does your compost
> >>>> pile, dog run, or son's car parts look
> from your
> >>>> neighbors' backyard or windows? Keep
> areas that are in
> >>>> others' view reasonably presentable.
> >>>>
> >>>>   Be appreciative. If your neighbor does
> something you
> >>>> like, tell them! They will be pleased that
> you noticed the
> >>>> yard work or the new paint job. It will be
> easier to talk
> >>>> later when they do something that you
> don't like.
> >>>>
> >>>>   When There is a Problem:
> >>>>
> >>>>   Don't assume that discussing it will
> aggravate your
> >>>> neighbor. Your neighbors can't help
> resolve a problem
> >>>> they don't know exists. Focus on:
> >>>>
> >>>>   ·         Learning rather than
> delivering a message
> >>>>
> >>>>   ·         Understanding rather than
> blaming
> >>>>
> >>>>   ·         Joint problem solving rather
> than who is at
> >>>> fault
> >>>>
> >>>>   If you use these approaches, the
> conversation will
> >>>> usually go better than you think.
> Neighbors are often not
> >>>> aware that their actions are negatively
> affecting others.
> >>>> Usually, people are willing to make
> changes if you approach
> >>>> them respectfully.
> >>>>
> >>>>   Don't assume you know your
> neighbors' intentions.
> >>>> If your neighbor does something that
> irritates you,
> >>>> don't assume that it was done on
> purpose. Presume the
> >>>> neighbor doesn't know about the
> annoyance. Giving them
> >>>> the benefit of the doubt will make it
> easier for you to
> >>>> talk about the situation.
> >>>>
> >>>>   Don't wait to talk about things that
> bother you. If
> >>>> your neighbor does something that bothers
> you, let them
> >>>> know. By communicating early and calmly,
> you take a big
> >>>> step forward toward resolving the problem.
> Don't wait
> >>>> until a minor irritation becomes a major
> issue and makes it
> >>>> difficult to discuss.
> >>>>
> >>>>   Separate the person from the problem.
> Conflict can happen
> >>>> whenever two or more people interact with
> one another. It
> >>>> occurs because we are all unique
> individuals with different
> >>>> perspectives, values, and needs. Focusing
> on the issue, not
> >>>> the person will allow you to take care of
> the problem while
> >>>> maintaining or improving your relationship
> with your
> >>>> neighbor.
> >>>>
> >>>>   Be respectful. Talk directly with the
> neighbor involved
> >>>> with the problem. Don't gossip or
> spread rumors with
> >>>> other neighbors. Gossip damages
> relationships and can hurt
> >>>> other people. Problem solving is only
> possible when we
> >>>> treat each other with respect.
> >>>>
> >>>>   Be calm. If a neighbor approaches you
> accusingly about a
> >>>> difficulty, listen carefully and thank
> them for telling you
> >>>> how they feel. You don't have to agree
> or justify your
> >>>> behavior. If you can listen and not react
> defensively, then
> >>>> their anger will subside, the lines of
> communication will
> >>>> remain open, and there is a good chance of
> working things
> >>>> out.
> >>>>
> >>>>   Listen well. When you discuss a problem,
> try to
> >>>> understand how your neighbor feels about
> an issue and why.
> >>>> Understanding is not the same as agreeing,
> but will
> >>>> increase the likelihood of a solution that
> works for you
> >>>> both. Summarize what you hear and ask
> questions to clarify
> >>>> your understanding of their view of the
> problem.
> >>>>
> >>>>   If things get heated, take a break. If
> you need to, take
> >>>> a break to calm down and think about what
> you and your
> >>>> neighbor have discussed. Arrange a time to
> finish the
> >>>> conversation later, and then do so.
> It's hard to
> >>>> problem solve when you are having a heated
> discussion.
> >>>>
> >>>>   Constructive communication can resolve
> conflict, and
> >>>> talking things over directly is the best
> way to handle
> >>>> problems, and avoid enforcement or the
> courts.
> >>>>
> >>>>   From the City of Beaverton Oregon
> Dispute Resolution
> >>>> Center.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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