[Nhhoa] Outside pool visitors
dmccoy1957 at bellsouth.net
dmccoy1957 at bellsouth.net
Tue Jun 3 17:43:43 CDT 2008
I too am sadden and upset that I have to spend 15 minutes deleting e-mails on this subject. If you don't feel the pool is safe, then spend a formal complaint to the HOA via mail or keep a log and spend it. We understand your safety concerns. My neighbors next door have their own pool, sounds like a good ideal for some of you. As far as limiting the number of guest, we often have our extended family visit from out of town. Am I supposed to decide which family member I am going to carry to the pool with me? Give me a Break!! As far as the Cards, it is a good ideal and who cares if the family has two cards. Often, one of us will be at the pool and the other will come later.
More people are staying home because it cost so much to go somewhere else, so there are more people at the pool. Also, the "kid population" in our neighborhood is growing older, just as the neighborhood itself is. There are more teenagers and less toddlers at the pool. I find it admirable for the parent to come to the pool with the teenager and their friends. I know there are some responsibile teenagers in this neighborhood who take younger brothers and sisters to the pool and do a fantastic job. That is great too!
I also feel that as a grandparent, it is my responsibility to monitor and watch my grandchildren, not the other neighbors. If you have an issue with them, see me and I will handle it. I also know this is a great neighborhood with some great neighbors. We often know each other out of the neighborhood. We see each other at school, jobs in the community, the gym and childrens sporting events. My wife, myself and my daughter really like many of the people in this community. If you do not know your neighbors get out in the community Cartersville and White you will see many of your neighbors in the community volunteering or going church or working. The cards would cut down on outsiders uninvited by residents getting into the pool. The code can easy slip from one person to other, even by accident. I like the area and the people. I know many lifelong residents in this area outside the subdivision. I hope we see more positive things about our community and less negative. I will
start I love seeing the residents young or old walking the neighborhood with or without their pets and I am glad we are small enough to know most people by sight and enjoy most people waving hello when you drive pass them.
-------------- Original message from rwegowan at bellsouth.net: --------------
I do agree with you that this is sad, but as I once again attempt to wade through this electronic minefield of spite and vindictiveness I am no longer certain I can agree with your assessment of North Hampton as a "great community".
-------------- Original message from manfredmartin at comcast.net: --------------
Hey Roger, I think it is just a case of lack of respect for others, and the North Hampton home owners responsible for abusing the system are showing exactly that, lack of respect. I think the only method that will make people like that take notice is to have stricter rules, like one guest per home owner and a fine for abusing the system, which unfortunately will make it tough on all those people who always do the right thing by their neighbors. Updating the lock mechanism, no matter how hi-tec, will not discourage anyone from abusing the system and the expense, we have to wear that too.
It's sad to see this happening in a great community like ours, but we can't just stand by and be taken advantage off. More ideas?? Fred Martin
-------------- Original message --------------
From: treasurer at nhhoa.org
> One idea that the board is discussing is to replace the current code lock with a
> lock system that would require a card for entru and to strengthen the gate
> closer to ensure that it closes every time. The only way in would be to have a
> card.
>
> One card would be issued to each house and it would be up to the resident to
> coordinate the card usage.
>
> This will not work though if people let unknown people into the pool area.
>
> It is not overly expensive, but was not budgeted for this year.
>
> Could everyone please give feedback regarding this idea?
>
> Will it work? Will you not let unauthorized people in? What do you think about
> limiting the number of guests allowed?
>
> Would you be willing for the board to approve using some reserve funds (approx
> $1000) to secure the pool or would you rather wait until another year to fund
> the project?
>
> All feedback and any other ideas are greatly appreciated.
>
> Roger Hackler
> Treasurer
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Amanda Brown
>
> Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 16:15:57
> To:North Hampton Homeowners Association
> Subject: Re: [Nhhoa] Outside pool visitors
>
>
> I had the same problem Saturday night, we ended up leaving after they wouldn't
> leave. The kids came in a van and tried to squeal the tires in the parking lot.
> I heard them say they are from whispering pines, they were very rude and
> obnoxious. What should we do?
>
> Amanda Brown
>
>
> --- On Mon , 6/2/08, Jennifer Martin wrote:
>
> > From: Jennifer Martin
> > Subject: [Nhhoa] Outside pool visitors
> > To: "North Hampton Homeowners Association"
> > Date: Monday, June 2, 2008, 2:13 PM
> > Hi Gang,
> > My little family and I went to the pool today and had an
> > excellent time. It's great to have the opportunity for
> > my kids to play with others in the neighborhood.
> >
> > However, at one point I counted 16 people in the pool that
> > were not from our neighborhood. I tried (which is VERY
> > hard for me) to confront them about having to have a
> > homeowner with them while using the amenities, but that
> > didn't work. Needless to say, it was rather crowded.
> >
> > I'm not good at confrontation. Any suggestions?
> >
& gt; > In addition, the pool and bathrooms look great. Thank you
> > board and other volunteers for the work you do for our
> > neighborhood :)
> > Jennifer Martin
> > ESOL Instructor
> > White Elementary
> > Pine Log Elementary
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Roger Hackler
> > To: 'North Hampton Homeowners Association'
> > Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 8:15 PM
> > Subject: [Nhhoa] Peaceful Coexistance
> >
> >
> > Here are some helpful suggestions for achieving a
> > peaceful coexistence with your neighbor:
> >
> > Before There is a Concern:
> >
> > Meet your neighbor. Introduce yourself at the mailbox,
> > when taking a walk, or when you see the moving boxes
> > arrive. Learning your neighbors' name and regularly
> > offering a cordial "good mornin g" or
> > "hello" can be the start of a positive
> > relationship. Don't worry about whether or not they
> > reciprocate. The important thing is that you are making an
> > effort. Don't wait until you have a problem to meet
> > your neighbor.
> >
> > Keep your neighbors informed. Contact your neighbors
> > before you do something that might affect them-such as
> > hosting a big party, building a fence, cutting down a tree,
> > or getting a new dog. Informing your neighbors ahead of time
> > allows them to make plans or tell you how your project will
> > affect them. Getting their input lets you act in a way that
> > avoids problems.
> >
> > Observe the Golden Rule. Treat your neighbors the way
> > they would like to be treated. Set an example by being
> > considerate about noise from vehicles, tools, stereos,
& gt; &g t; group activities and pets.
> >
> > Be aware of differences. Differences in age, ethnic
> > background, years in the neighborhood, etc. can lead to
> > conflicting expectations or misunderstandings unless you
> > make an effort to communicate and understand each other.
> >
> > Consider your neighbors' view. How does your compost
> > pile, dog run, or son's car parts look from your
> > neighbors' backyard or windows? Keep areas that are in
> > others' view reasonably presentable.
> >
> > Be appreciative. If your neighbor does something you
> > like, tell them! They will be pleased that you noticed the
> > yard work or the new paint job. It will be easier to talk
> > later when they do something that you don't like.
> >
> > When There is a Problem:
> >
> > Don't assume that discussing it will ag gravate your
> > neighbor. Your neighbors can't help resolve a problem
> > they don't know exists. Focus on:
> >
> > · Learning rather than delivering a message
> >
> > · Understanding rather than blaming
> >
> > · Joint problem solving rather than who is at
> > fault
> >
> > If you use these approaches, the conversation will
> > usually go better than you think. Neighbors are often not
> > aware that their actions are negatively affecting others.
> > Usually, people are willing to make changes if you approach
> > them respectfully.
> >
> > Don't assume you know your neighbors' intentions.
> > If your neighbor does something that irritates you,
> > don't assume that it was done on purpose. Presume the
> > neighbor doesn't know about the annoyance. Giving them
> > the benefit of the doubt will make it easier for you to
> > talk about the situation.
> >
> > Don't wait to talk about things that bother you. If
> > your neighbor does something that bothers you, let them
> > know. By communicating early and calmly, you take a big
> > step forward toward resolving the problem. Don't wait
> > until a minor irritation becomes a major issue and makes it
> > difficult to discuss.
> >
> > Separate the person from the problem. Conflict can happen
> > whenever two or more people interact with one another. It
> > occurs because we are all unique individuals with different
> > perspectives, values, and needs. Focusing on the issue, not
> > the person will allow you to take care of the problem while
> > maintaining or improving your relationship with your
> > neighbor.
> >
> > Be respectful. Talk directly with the neighbor involved
> > with the problem. Don't gossip or spread rumors with
> > other neighbors. Gossip damages relationships and can hurt
> > other people. Problem solving is only possible when we
> > treat each other with respect.
> >
> > Be calm. If a neighbor approaches you accusingly about a
> > difficulty, listen carefully and thank them for telling you
> > how they feel. You don't have to agree or justify your
> > behavior. If you can listen and not react defensively, then
> > their anger will subside, the lines of communication will
> > remain open, and there is a good chance of working things
> > out.
> >
> > Listen well. When you discuss a problem, try to
> > understand how your neighbor feels about an issue and why.
> > Understanding is not the same as agreeing, but will
> > increas e the likelihood of a solution that works for you
> > both. Summarize what you hear and ask questions to clarify
> > your understanding of their view of the problem.
> >
> > If things get heated, take a break. If you need to, take
> > a break to calm down and think about what you and your
> > neighbor have discussed. Arrange a time to finish the
> > conversation later, and then do so. It's hard to
> > problem solve when you are having a heated discussion.
> >
> > Constructive communication can resolve conflict, and
> > talking things over directly is the best way to handle
> > problems, and avoid enforcement or the courts.
> >
> > From the City of Beaverton Oregon Dispute Resolution
> > Center.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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