[Nhhoa] Rules, a word of thanks, and then dismay
Debbie Hanenkrat
cdhan at bellsouth.net
Mon Jun 9 11:31:51 CDT 2008
If the person Roger spoke to was not one of the three residents on Hyatt
Court, then it sounds like he was speaking to someone who was a non-resident
using our pool. We are already aware that there is a problem with
non-residents using our pool. Who else would climb the fence anyway?
Roger, I appreciate the fact that you are not only concerned about the
neighborhood, but willing to go and check on things when needed. I also
appreciate the way Walker is willing to check things out. All of our
association officers are very helpful and especially thoughtful when you
consider how much of their own time they devote to association matters.
We have a nice neighborhood populated with really great people. It's up to
all of us, not just the association officers to watch for problems and try
and correct them.
Debbie Hanenkrat
-----Original Message-----
From: nhhoa-bounces at nhhoa.org [mailto:nhhoa-bounces at nhhoa.org] On Behalf Of
Dianne
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 9:42 AM
To: mandy22726 at yahoo.com; North Hampton Homeowners Association
Subject: Re: [Nhhoa] Rules, a word of thanks, and then dismay
Roger,
Thank you for your apology. I am not upset, just defending myself
since I am one of two residents this could have been if persons were
only going on the description from your e-mail. I can't help but go
back to your e-mail from June 1 @ 8:15 which was sent out to help us
resolve problems with our neighbors in an efficient and respectful
way. I wish you, and others, would reference it for yourselves.
Especially the part that stated:
"Be respectful. Talk directly with the neighbor involved with the
problem. Don't gossip or spread rumors with other neighbors. Gossip
damages relationships and hurt other people. Problem solving is only
possible when we treat each other with respect."
This was the very point I was trying to make when I said as a board
member you should have done your homework first before "exacerbating"
the situation on the e-mail site and called us directly. It would
have not taken long to figure out this is a short street. And after
reading the long e-mail from your wife, who states she was wrongfully
accused of actions, I would think you would have first hand knowledge
of how to appropriately handle such a situation. And the fact you
have access to the "City of Beaverton Oregon Dispute Resolution
Center" should have been a great help in this situation. i understand
reacting is a natural response especially after apparent constant
bickering and nick picking on every issue and unfortunately you are in
the center of the action. I may have vented likewise before taking my
own advice of using the "Golden Rule" etc, etc. I am also all for
stronger security at the pool, cameras, what ever it takes to keep our
community safe and ensure rules are followed.
As for you Amanda,
You have e-mailed more "ridiculous, high school" sounding e-mail in
your short 3 months than I have ever posted. This is the first time I
have been on the e-mail site and that was because I was defending
myself after I was pulled in by erroneous information and accusations
by a board member. So I guess you should have told him to stop giving
me "such a hard time". Afterwards the regulars chime in to give
their parenting and good citizenship advice, never once stating this
may have been a non-resident. I am sure if you were singled out after
the only other person cleared themselves, you would have responded as
well, being that you are aware of the right thing to do. I am not
interested in this bantering back and forth and get quit sick of
reading your and others comments on how we should behave, raise our
children and dogs, top 10 lists, etc. and so on. You as well should
take your own advice, stay out of matters which do not concern you,
keeping childish comments at bay and "let it go" and mind your own
business. By the way, I did send person to person e-mails concerning
this matter to avoid lambasting persons on the public site (before I
read yours which deserved to be aired). You don't get the face time
publicly, looking like a sanctimonious know it all, but at least I
sleep well at night. A very mature action I thought on my part.
Dianne Leckwold
On Jun 9, 2008, at 7:04 AM, Amanda Brown wrote:
> All this arguing is getting ridiculous! I have only lived here for 3
> months and there has been some sort of drama every week. We are all
> adults and we all know the rules. We are no different than anyone
> else in this neighborhood, therefore the rules are the same for
> everyone. If you weren't the one being so rude and insubordinate at
> the pool then just say "it wasn't me" and let it go. We are not in
> high school. The person who did this should atleast send a private
> email explaining and apologizing, that would be the right thing to
> do and everyone else should just keep doing what they're doing
> (following the rules), and stop giving the board members such a hard
> time. Express concerns but don't turn it in to a war of words.
>
> Amanda Mullinax
>
>
> --- On Sun, 6/8/08, scott and vicki <sssvpg at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> From: scott and vicki <sssvpg at comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Nhhoa] Rules, a word of thanks, and then dismay
>> To: "North Hampton Homeowners Association" <nhhoa at nhhoa.org>
>> Date: Sunday, June 8, 2008, 9:43 PM
>> as an FYI regarding the pool hours, they were set this way
>> in the past for two reasons...
>>
>> 1. this pool requires about 6 hours for the whole pool to
>> filter through the sand filter (turn over rate) and being
>> the high traffic pool that it is, due to its size and the
>> size of the neighborhood, it was thought to give it 12
>> hours to insure good filtration. And also an hour to vacuum
>> prior to opening.
>>
>> 2. when the pool hours were set we did not have adequate
>> lighting to let it stay open after dark.
>>
>> I'm sure this will create another rash of "email
>> drama" but being a CPO, I thought I'd give my two
>> cents.
>>
>> Vicki Smith
>> 13 Vineyard
>> Original Message -----
>> From: valdez00 at bellsouth.net
>> To: North Hampton Homeowners Association
>> Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 7:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Nhhoa] Rules, a word of thanks, and then
>> dismay
>>
>>
>> Hi my name is Lisa Harrison And it was my daughter last
>> night that let time get away from her. I think it is great
>> that home owners take time to check up on the pool. We have
>> been here since she was in first grade. and she has always
>> been respectful to others. We use to have different pool
>> hours. it seems that it opens later and closes early. But I
>> understand thing change. Our kids have been told that they
>> will be acountable for there actions. I stand behind
>> keeping outsiders from using our pool. I was asked why the
>> pool opened so late some of the home owners would like to
>> swim early before it gets so hot. I am ok with what ever is
>> desided. Once again thank you for treating my daughter with
>> respect. Lisa Harrison
>> -------------- Original message from
>> carenrago at comcast.net: --------------
>>
>>
>> Hi Neighbors,
>>
>> Just wanted to drop a line and say that even though we
>> fit the description described below AND we live on Hyatt
>> court, it was not us at the pool last night! Since there
>> are only 3 families currently living on Hyatt Court and we
>> have two 5-year-olds, it would be easy to draw that
>> conclusion! Not only have we not been to the pool this
>> year, our kids are in bed lo-o-o-ng before 10:00 pm. : )
>>
>> Besides, I'm not rude, not uncooperative, and
>> I'm very nice. ; )
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Frank and Caren Rago
>>
>> -------------- Original message --------------
>> From: "NHHOA Treasurer"
>> <treasurer at nhhoa.org>
>>
>> I just wanted to say that my faith in human behavior
>> was temporarily restored last evening.
>>
>>
>>
>> When coming back from dinner with friends around
>> 10PM, we noticed someone swimming at the pool. Honestly, I
>> figured it was someone from outside of the neighborhood
>> taking advantage of our amenities which we all pay for. I
>> walked up and said I'm sorry but the pool closes at
>> 9:00pm. They were very nice and apologized for letting the
>> time get away from them. They told me that they lived on
>> Centerport. I just wanted to say "Thank you" to
>> the two ladies for being so nice and understanding.
>>
>>
>>
>> At the next BOD meeting, discussion will take place
>> due to requests to extend the pool hours, and hopefully we
>> can do just that.
>>
>>
>>
>> Why did I say my faith was temporarily restored?
>>
>>
>>
>> At the same time the conversation above was going on,
>> a car with a Lady and 2 children pulled into the pool area.
>> My friend that was with us, and also a resident here in
>> North Hampton, walked over and told the lady , word for
>> word, "Excuse me Maam, but the pool closes at
>> 9:00". She said OK.
>>
>>
>>
>> We left and dropped our friends off at their home.
>> Something told me to go back by the pool. Sure enough, the
>> lady and 2 children were in the pool swimming. How did they
>> get in since I ensured the gate was closed and the lock
>> doesn't open from the outside after 9:00pm? Only one
>> way - someone had to jump the fence. I confronted her
>> again, after calling Walker to come over for some backup -
>> just in case. She was rude, uncooperative, and just plain
>> not nice at all. She finally said she was leaving. I
>> asked her if she lived in North Hampton, and she said yes,
>> on Hyatt Court. I asked what house and she told me that
>> "that doesn't matter". I didn't have
>> the energy to follow.
>>
>>
>>
>> There goes my faith in human nature again - right
>> down the tubes.
>>
>>
>>
>> Why does any of this matter?
>>
>>
>>
>> Because when we purchased our home here, we read the
>> CCRs, the Bylaws, and agreed that they were a good thing to
>> protect our long term investment. If the rules aren't
>> enforced, or selectively enforced, it can lead to
>> invalidation of all of the rules and covenants. Do I like
>> all of the rules? No, I would like to see some of them,
>> changed. Do I abide by the rules, even the ones that I
>> don't like - yes. For the reasons stated above.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm sorry for venting, but my frustration level
>> is getting very high.
>>
>>
>>
>> Can someone help me understand what makes people
>> think that they have the right to do absolutely anything
>> they want - rules or no rules?
>>
>>
>>
>> Does anyone have any suggestions on how to deal with
>> things like this?
>>
>>
>>
>> It seems that 90% of the time and effort is spent on
>> 10% of the people.
>>
>>
>>
>> Roger
>>
>>
>>
>>
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